PUBLIC VERSION. Filmmaker Adam MacDonald (BACKCOUNTRY, PYEWACKET, SLASHER) joins Adam, Joe, and Arwen to discuss the making of his new feature OUT COME THE WOLVES (in theaters now). From the genesis of the "third wheel" concept and the collaborative development that became the OUT COME THE WOLVES screenplay… to the importance of having three dimensional characters in order to make the thrills actually matter… to how the film's sound design was crafted and how he used selective focus to create tension and dread… to what it was like meeting the film's wolves for the first time… to how bringing crew members that he worked with on the TV series SLASHER helped him pull off the film on a mere 16 day shoot… to how he became the voice of "John Carver" in Eli Roth's THANKSGIVING… Adam takes us deep into the woods and deep behind the scenes of his new survival thriller.

Dr. Arwen provides "Hollywood Therapy" for a listener who feels like he is watching his kids grow up too fast and the two Adams geek out hard about their experiences working with wolves.