Mindrolling with Raghu Markus

Ep. 619 – Sanity and Sainthood: Integrating Meditation and Psychotherapy with Tucker Peck, Ph.D.


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Raghu sits down with clinical psychologist and meditation teacher Dr. Tucker Peck to explore the meeting point of dharma and psychotherapy.

If you are in the U.S., you can directly purchase a paperback copy of Sanity & Sainthood HERE. Otherwise, head over to Amazon for both paperback and ebook formats. 

In this episode of Mindrolling, Raghu and Tucker discuss:

  • Tucker’s first mind-altering meditative experience on the beach
  • Including the dharma in psychotherapy and Tucker’s work in meditation as a therapeutic modality
  • How Tucker developed a relationship with Sharon Salzberg and learned mindfulness techniques from her
  • The eccentric story of Grandma Allegra: enlightenment, humor, and being in love with the world 
  • The question of psychedelics—are they ‘necessary’ for elevating consciousness?
  • Working with the mind and the difference between content and process 
  • The pros and cons of the ego and why we need to first know ourselves before dissolving the self
  • The Elephant Path, a nine-step practice for building concentration, insight, and awakened awareness

About Tucker Peck, Ph.D.:

Dr. Tucker Peck is a meditation teacher, clinical psychologist, and bestselling author of Sanity and Sainthood.  His specialties include working with advanced meditators and using meditation to help those suffering from psychological disorders.  He hosts the podcast Teaching Meditation. Tucker began formal training in meditation in 2005 and has studied with, among other teachers, Sharon Salzberg and Upasaka Culadasa.Tucker received his undergraduate degree in Psychology from Brown University, and he received his Masters and Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the College of Science at the University of Arizona. Tucker is a published author on the scientific study of meditation, focusing on how meditation affects the brain. He is a former faculty member of both the University of Arizona Department of Psychology and College of Medicine, and he is the founder and former Director of Palo Santo Psychotherapy & Wellness.  He is the founder, treasurer, and past president of the Open Dharma Foundation, which provides scholarships to meditation retreats, and for four years served as the president of the Tucson Community Meditation Center.  Keep up with Tucker and his upcoming retreats HERE.

“The trouble is, the ego is trying to protect you from threats and it is very, very unclear on what does and doesn’t constitute a threat. It tends to think any sort of emotion constitutes a threat, any sort of insight into how the mind or perceptual system works is more than you can handle, so what you want is to slowly get to know yourself.” –Tucker Peck, Ph.D.

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