If you only based your worldview on the Twittersphere, you’d probably conclude that the country is so thoroughly torn apart there’s no way for people to come together and reconcile their differences. Luckily, most people (and most of the world) exist outside Twitter, in the real world, where real things happen. A lot of people are wondering if there’s a way to heal the nation. It might be hard, but it’s going to start with people talking to each other in productive ways. Jamie Kilstein, comedian and podcaster, joins us to discuss his journey from being a “woke” liberal, filled with disdain for anyone outside that ideological bubble, to a person who has discovered the benefit of breaking down the preconceived notions filling folks with contempt for other people. He talks about his move from New York to Austin, meeting Marjorie Taylor Greene, and finding out conservatives tend to be more fun. Jamie’s experience is a perfect example of how we can mend the divide between us if we simply allow people room to grow and evolve. It won’t be easy or quick, but it is indeed possible. A few days ago, it was discovered that the private information of 120,000 taxpayers was accidentally made public on the IRS website for a year! Of course, they said this was simply a mistake that they would fix, but one has to wonder if we really need 80,000 more IRS agents making these types of “mistakes.” This may sound crazy, but it’s probably time we turn the tables and audit the IRS.

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