Noah and August discuss the relationship/dynamics between Dean and Frank, Noah's uncle issues, Lucifer in Sam's brain, and soooo many theories for the rest of the show!

Join us as we discuss Season 7, Episode 16: Out with the Old through the theme of Obscurement!

This episode contains subject matter and may not be appropriate for those under 18. Listen with discretion.

Content warning: abusive relationships. psychosis, self harm.

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