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WE ARE WINTER’S BLUE AND RADIANT CHILDREN’S Mat Ball (BIG|BRAVE), Jonathan Downs (Vervain, Rhubarb), Efrim Manuel Menuck (godspeed you! black emperor, ALL HANDS_MAKE LIGHT), and Patch One (Vervain, Pond 1000, Greef) discuss their new album, No More Apocalypse Father, starting a band with people you’ve never met before, an affinity for winter, parents, children, and patriarchy, when Michael Jackson dangled his baby Blanket over a balcony and how the concept of a family can be exploited, singing lullabies in a baritone and having empathy, spectating atrocities from afar, denying reality and having hope, what’s next for WAWBARC, other future plans, and much more.

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