Guest:

• Rafal Los, Head of Services Strategy @ Extrahop and Founder of Down the Security Rabbit Hole podcast

Topics:

• You had a very fun blog where you reminded the world that many organizations still approach cloud as a rented data center, do you still see it now? Do you think this will persist for 3, 5, 10 years?

• Other than microservices, what're the most important differences between public cloud and a rented data center for a CISO to keep in mind?

• Analysts say that "cloud is secure, but clients just aren't using it securely", what is your reaction to this?

• Actually, how do you define "use cloud securely"?

• Have you met any CISOs who are active cloud fans who prefer cloud for security reasons?

• You also work for an NDR vendor, do you think NDR in the cloud has a future?

Resources:

• Full video of this episode (YouTube / LinkedIn)

• Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR) podcast

• "A Little Truth About the Cloud"

• "Megatrends drive cloud adoption—and improve security for all"

• "CISO Walks Into the Cloud: And The Magic Starts to Happen!" (ep104)

• "Threat Models and Cloud Security" (ep12)

• "Security Architect View: Cloud Migration Successes, Failures and Lessons" (ep105)

• "Patrolling Cyberspace" book (2006)