Rethinking success starts with a simple shift: experiment, stay curious, and let learning lead the way.

I’m sitting down with neuroscientist and entrepreneur Anne-Laure Le Cunff to talk about neuroscience, creativity, and personal transformation. What happens when we stop chasing a predefined version of success and start treating life as a series of experiments? Anne-Laure shares how a health scare pushed her to leave corporate life, study neuroscience, and build Nest Labs, a community that helps people stay productive and creative without sacrificing mental health.

She introduces the “experimental mindset,” a way to embrace uncertainty, learn through action, and reframe failure as progress. She also shares a simple brain hack: “curiosity snacks,” small shifts that turn impulsive habits into moments of meaningful exploration.

This conversation is a reminder that personal growth doesn’t require a perfect plan. Instead, understanding the brain and leaning into creativity can open new doors, helping us build a life that evolves with us.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 Introduction

02:40 Anne-Laure’s Career Journey

06:08 Managing Insecurity and Embracing Change

07:48 Personal Crisis and Realignment

09:21 Curiosity and Creativity Interconnection

10:17 Creative Processes and Community Feedback

12:37 Taking Risks and Community Support

14:03 Nest Labs Community Creation

16:40 Empowering Community Members

18:49 Fascination with Neuroscience

20:00 Stimulating the Brain: Curiosity Snacks

21:44 Book Introduction: Tiny Experiments

23:35 Experimental Mindset Concept

25:37 Intentional Imperfection Concept

29:13 Role Models and Personal Influence

31:07 Closing

Links

Connect with Anne-Laure Le Cunff, PhD:

NessLabs: https://nesslabs.com  

Anne-Laure's Book Tiny Experiments: https://nesslabs.com/book

Connect with Jane Bertch:

Website: www.janebertch.com 

Instagram @janebertch

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