Cloud Security Podcast by Google

EP166 Workload Identity, Zero Trust and SPIFFE (Also Turtles!)


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Guests:

  • Evan Gilman, co-founder CEO of Spirl

  • Eli Nesterov, co-founder CTO of Spril

Topics:

  • Today we have IAM,  zero trust and security made easy. With that intro, could you give us the 30 second version of what a workload identity is and why people need them? 

  • What’s so spiffy about SPIFFE anyway? 

  • What’s different between this and micro segmentation of your network–why is one better or worse? 

  • You call your book “solving the bottom turtle” could you tell us what that means?

  • What are the challenges you’re seeing large organizations run into when adopting this approach at scale? 

  • Of all the things a CISO could prioritize, why should this one get added to the list? What makes this, which is so core to our internal security model–ripe for the outside world?

  • How people do it now, what gets thrown away when you deploy SPIFFE? Are there alternative?

  • SPIFFE is interesting, yet can a startup really “solve for the bottom turtle”? 

Resources:

  • SPIFFE  and Spirl

  • “Solving the Bottom Turtle” book [PDF, free]

  • “Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!” book [also, one of Anton’s faves for years!]

  • “Zero Trust Networks” book

  • Workload Identity Federation in GCP
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