Most fisheries are managed with a complicated web of science, industry, and politics... but what would it take to manage them in a utopian world? In this episode, fisheries scientist John Carlucci joins for a discussion about how industry collaboration, innovative research, and a human touch can define our approach to sustainable fishing.

From growing up fishing in Connecticut to working at the Pelagic Fisheries Lab in Maine, John reveals the behind-the-scenes of tagging giant bluefin tuna, deciphering their age through otoliths, and the pivotal role industry partners play in collecting critical data. He illustrates how industry involvement isn’t just incidental; it’s the backbone of impactful science that informs management and rebuilds fish populations.