Virtuous Leaders with Dr. Johann D'Souza

Ep.22 - War Is Hell: Leadership Lessons from Donovan Campbell of Joker One


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In this 22nd episode of our podcast, Dr. Johann D'Souza welcomes Donovan Campbell, a distinguished leader whose life experiences have profoundly shaped his understanding of leadership.


A magna cum laude graduate from Princeton, Donovan served as an officer in Ramadi, Iraq, one of the most perilous deployments for U.S. forces, before authoring the bestselling book Joker One, which reflects on his combat experiences.


Key Takeaways:

  • Emphasizing servant leadership can transform both military and civilian environments.
  • Effective leadership requires a blend of soft skills (empathy, connection) and hard skills (planning, execution).
  • Team success is built on preparation and shared understanding rather than individual actions.
  • Civic engagement is crucial for fostering community involvement and addressing local issues.
  • Supporting veterans is a vital aspect of leadership that extends beyond military service.


Timestamp:

  • 00:00:00 - Introduction of Donovan Campbell and his leadership focus.
  • 00:00:27 - Key leadership lessons: servant leadership and challenges.
  • 00:01:46 - Incorporating high ideals in combat situations.
  • 00:01:55 - Chaos of urban combat: training and teamwork importance.
  • 00:04:54 - Realities of war vs. romanticized views.
  • 00:06:25 - Combat experience and thoughtful war decision-making.
  • 00:07:56 - Human adaptability and resilience in trauma.
  • 00:10:31 - Applying war lessons to daily life.
  • 00:10:57 - "Soft" and "hard" skills from combat experience.
  • 00:12:37 - Importance of planning and team development.
  • 00:15:36 - Discussion on Donovan's school board candidacy.
  • 00:15:42 - Motivations for running and election outcomes.
  • 00:17:48 - Involvement in veterans' causes and community work.
  • 00:20:39 - Analysis of Pete Hegseth’s qualifications as Secretary of Defense.
  • 00:24:58 - Support for Hegseth’s nomination and military issues.
  • 00:25:11 - Discussion of Hegseth’s focus on military excellence vs. social experimentation.


Resources and Links:

Listen to ⁠⁠this Episode⁠on Apple Podcast.

Watch this podcast video⁠⁠⁠ on YouTube.

Discover the New York Times Bestselling Book: “Joker Oneby Donovan Campbell”

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