Pat joins us again (he was on way back in June 2020!) for the 2nd time. We discussed, among other things, his views on the major differences between sport/working dog trainers and pet dog trainers, and how this impacts the lives of the average pet dog.We also touched on e-collars and some common misconceptions regarding them.Find Pat and his wealth of knowledge at https://www.seriousdogbusiness.com/homeFind us online >>Panos @ www.npdogtraining.com >>Luke @ www.kizunacanine.com.au >>www.facebook.com/lifewithyourdogpodcast >>www.instagram.com/lifewithyourdogpodcast >>www.lifewithyourdogpodcast.com