Cloud Security Podcast by Google

EP263 SOC Refurbishing: Why New Tools Won't Fix Broken Processes (Even With AI)


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Guest:

  • Daniel Lyman, VP of Threat Detection and Response, Fiserv

Topics:

  • What is the right way for people to bridge the gap and translate executive dreams and board goals into the reality of life on the ground?
  • How do we talk to people who think they have "transformed" their SOC simply by buying a better, shinier product (like a modern SIEM) while leaving their old processes intact?
  • What are the specific challenges and advantages you've seen with a federated SOC versus a centralized one? What does a "federated" or "sub-SOC" model actually mean in practice?
  • Why is the message that "EDR doesn't cover everything" so hard for some people to hear? Is this obsession with EDR a business decision or technology debt?
  • How do you expect AI to change the calculus around data centralization versus data federation?
  • What is your favorite example of telemetry that is useful, but usually excluded from a SIEM?
  • What are the Detection and Response organizational metrics that you think are most valuable?
  • Is the continued use of Excel an issue of tooling, laziness, or just because it is a fundamentally good way to interact with a small database?

Resources:

  • Video version
  • "In My Time of Dying" book
  • EP258 Why Your Security Strategy Needs an Immune System, Not a Fortress with Royal Hansen
  • EP197 SIEM (Decoupled or Not), and Security Data Lakes: A Google SecOps Perspective
  • The Gravity of Process: Why New Tech Never Fixes Broken Process and Can AI Change It? blog
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