Angela and Dylan are back... after 102 episodes and a full year to talk about their new record GRIND. Thoughts on discussion on touring in the age of COVID, continuing on without Rebecca. Bringing in new folks to the band. What adornments and embellishments an extra year (!) of sitting with a record provides, why trying too hard to be what is wanted in the moment is bound for unhappiness and a freewheeling breakdown of each of the new album's songs.