Black Heart is back, and playing shows in 2025. What wonderful news. Pall knows knives! Acidwrx balisong knives (aka: switchblades). Probably more knife talk than has ever happened on this show. The history of Three Mile Pilot, a history of Black Heart Procession. working with Issac Brock on Ugly Casanova (and Modest Mouse in general), making a video for every song BEFORE the youtube age, Corey Rusk calling about being on Touch and Go and getting the message from his mom, the act of creation, being a quiet person and a frontman, and the Ice Cream Floats upcoming cruise. It's been 5 1/2 years since Pall's Black heart bandmate Toby was on, so let's dig in.

B. Hamilton - B. Hamilton - Good Foot (ep429)

Lung - The Swankeeper - The Money

Gaytheist - The Mustache Stays - Break Me In (ep425)

mclusky - the world is still here and so are we - way of the exploding dickhead

PLOSIVS - YELL AT CLOUD - Falls Equivalency

HLLLYH - URUBURU - Black Rainbows (ep434)

Buñuel - Mansuetude - Drug Burn (ep401)

Deaf Club - We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness - Nihilism For Dummies (Ep432, Ep442)

Vile Bees - Joy Coughs - Anime Bodies

Chat Pile and Hayden Pedigo - In the Earth Again - Demon Time

We Contain Multitudes - Minako - D9 (ep431)

Jolie Laide - Creatures - Something for the Thrill (ep424)

Resurrectionists - Any Time You Make a Place for Them - Hey Man

Cheer-Accident - Admission - Cold Comfort (ep430)

FACS - Wish Defense - Wish Defense (ep417)

Heet Deth - Bad Reading - King of Swords

Cosmic Kitten - Cosmic Kitten - Hole In My Soul

The Austerity Program - Bible Songs 2 - Lamentations 4:7-11 (Ep423)

Sloan - Based on the Best Seller - Dream Destroyer

Swami John Reis - Time to Let You Down - Fed to the Dogs

Shiner - BELIEVEYOUME - Asleep In the Trunk

Tropical Fuck Storm - Fairyland Codex - Dunning Kruger's Loser Cruiser

Melvins - Thunderball - Victory of the Pyramids

Lightning Swells Forever - Delirium - Daze

Assertion - Basking in the Gaslight - Please Wake Up

Listening playlist - apple music, spotify, youtube music

Also, while listening to stuff... Conan put out a Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends record called The Way of the Neutron too. apple music, spotify, youtube music

The evolution of the Champs, including the Santa Cruz days and move to SF and Tim Green joining. Playing metal in an environment that didn't always support that. changing the name to C4AM95 for their "third record" and why that may have not been the smartest idea. Listing gear in the record jacket, Drag City, Changing to The Fucking Champs (based on a t-shirt), IV and Extra Man. Collaborations and tours with Trans Am, Josh leaving and Phil Manley tagging in. Side projects and how the Champs kind of petered out. Tim also has a synth based electronic record out called Orange Magnet on bandcamp. and why a Fucking Champs reunion is pretty unlikely.

It has been SEVEN YEARS since the mighty J.D Pinkus has been on Protonic Reversal. The Butthole Surfers documentary, recording with John Paul Jones (and getting him to swear off alcohol!), lack of credits in the BHS world and dipping out before the "big hit", high tech rednecks putting together the insane visuals in a pre-photoshop era. Playing with Helios Creed, singing in your proper range, space banjo, Double Live and the story of Kathleen the Sh*t lady, Tall Tall Trees and Ponder Machine, Grow a Pear, Union Synthesizers, Fungus Shui (and it being a TRUE solo record, sans dogs), Kramer. Songs v. Sound. Versions of songs and how they live after being written. Jackofficers and "Hick-hop", Hurdy Gurdy Man, word of mouth v. Internet, is P S Y the BHS version of Dark Star? Live at Leather Fly, The BHS book by James Burns. Breakaway bottles, Upcoming tour with Clutch and COC and SO MUCH MORE.

Steven is back, after a 5 YEAR (!) break. Redd Kross has been very busy! Including releasing their latest (and best?) album The Redd album. Upcoming shows with the Hard Ons and Little Steven's Underground Garage CRUISE. The critic inside your head, staying present... the formation and career of OFF!, taking a 10 year break from touring... joining Melvins and adjusting to being a utility player and serving the music, as well as bringing the BIG ROCK! Dynamics with Jeff McDonald, vs. others, a 45 year spanning band! KISS, Neurotica, Sparks talk (like: playing in their live band!). The Redd Kross documentary featuring the SONG Born Innocent. and Spirit of '76. Hey, he's a busy guy, let's dive in.

The legendary drummer returns! A long time coming, This is Rey's return to Protonic Reversal all the way from Episode 27! The Scratch Acid Box Set, and legacy. The "R" band and reactions to that band's name and the future of that music on streaming. Playing with Ministry, Big Boys. Didjits and Phantom Planet (!). What led Rey to try his hand at acting and how that worked out. String sections in punk rock songs and why Rey wish he had gotten to know Steve Albini better.

It has been over 4 years since JP has been on protonic! And in that time Deaf Club has only thrived they have a new record We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness AND he's launched his own podcast called Cult and Culture. What else? Well, a lot actually. Lots of podcast talk, as well as Dead Cross and Dave Lombardo, Michael Crain and Retox, the Locust legacy, Head Wound City, the return of Swing Kids, Brian's love of Nirvana, keeping 31G alive as an independent label in 2025, the Oops tour and competitiveness in music, and amongst everything else...recreating Killing Joke's Extremities with Martin Atkins. It's a back and forth conversation and a good time as Conan squeezes in one last protonic reversal before tour JUST for you.

Nuzzle was a high energy indie rock band from Santa Cruz, adjacent to the Gravity Records and K/Kill Rock Stars west coast scenes of the 90s. Follow For Now, their 1995 record has been reissued by Solid Brass Records a remix and remaster! We get into the history of Nuzzle, Yo-Yo A Go-Go, Junk of Myth, and a little bit of the Dying Californian. As well as revisiting songs, remixing and remastering records without the pressure of immediately going on tour, bay area punk rock history, George Chen, oh yeah and Conan's first van being one of Nuzzle's old vans.

Season to Risk is a legendary band, formed in 1989. They predated the indie gold rush, put out two records on Columbia, toured hard with a "who's who" of 90s rock, Built their own studio (destroyed by a flash flood) and continued on making interesting and unique records. In 2025 they released 1-800-Meltdown, a collection of rare and unreleased songs, covers, experiments, demos and more. They are back and touring, to the delight of all. Also, revealed on the show: A reissue of In a Perfect World for record store day! All of this, the legendary van flip of 1997. The origin of Record Bar, Steve's venue in Kansas city. Sie Lieben Maschinen (with Josh Newton and Chris Bolig), Roman Numerals, Violenteer, a detailed accounting of the Season To Risk's history and a whole heck of a lot more. It has been a long time coming, dig in!

The year is 2025 an the band Silkworm is BACK! This line-up includes early member Joel RL Phelps, who wrote and played on the first three records, but is not as known to people who knew SKWM as a three piece. After the tragic death of drummer Michael Dahlquist in 2005 Silkworm as a band was no more. So let's hear about what these shows entail, how they came about and how it all fits together, shall we? Couldn't You Wait documentary, legacy of the band, growing as musicians, muscle memory, Missoula to Seattle to Chicago, the eras and what songs to play, a quick rundown of the selected Silkworm discography. etc. Tim has been on the show a few times (including a song-by-song deep dive on Firewater) and is always wonderful. In 2025 Silkworm has reformed with original member Joel RL Phelps and new member Jeff Panall. Permanently? We shall see. Tim Midyett returns to talk all about it. SILKWORM!