It has been over 4 years since JP has been on protonic! And in that time Deaf Club has only thrived they have a new record We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness AND he's launched his own podcast called Cult and Culture. What else? Well, a lot actually. Lots of podcast talk, as well as Dead Cross and Dave Lombardo, Michael Crain and Retox, the Locust legacy, Head Wound City, the return of Swing Kids, Brian's love of Nirvana, keeping 31G alive as an independent label in 2025, the Oops tour and competitiveness in music, and amongst everything else...recreating Killing Joke's Extremities with Martin Atkins. It's a back and forth conversation and a good time as Conan squeezes in one last protonic reversal before tour JUST for you.

Nuzzle was a high energy indie rock band from Santa Cruz, adjacent to the Gravity Records and K/Kill Rock Stars west coast scenes of the 90s. Follow For Now, their 1995 record has been reissued by Solid Brass Records a remix and remaster! We get into the history of Nuzzle, Yo-Yo A Go-Go, Junk of Myth, and a little bit of the Dying Californian. As well as revisiting songs, remixing and remastering records without the pressure of immediately going on tour, bay area punk rock history, George Chen, oh yeah and Conan's first van being one of Nuzzle's old vans.

Season to Risk is a legendary band, formed in 1989. They predated the indie gold rush, put out two records on Columbia, toured hard with a "who's who" of 90s rock, Built their own studio (destroyed by a flash flood) and continued on making interesting and unique records. In 2025 they released 1-800-Meltdown, a collection of rare and unreleased songs, covers, experiments, demos and more. They are back and touring, to the delight of all. Also, revealed on the show: A reissue of In a Perfect World for record store day! All of this, the legendary van flip of 1997. The origin of Record Bar, Steve's venue in Kansas city. Sie Lieben Maschinen (with Josh Newton and Chris Bolig), Roman Numerals, Violenteer, a detailed accounting of the Season To Risk's history and a whole heck of a lot more. It has been a long time coming, dig in!

The year is 2025 an the band Silkworm is BACK! This line-up includes early member Joel RL Phelps, who wrote and played on the first three records, but is not as known to people who knew SKWM as a three piece. After the tragic death of drummer Michael Dahlquist in 2005 Silkworm as a band was no more. So let's hear about what these shows entail, how they came about and how it all fits together, shall we? Couldn't You Wait documentary, legacy of the band, growing as musicians, muscle memory, Missoula to Seattle to Chicago, the eras and what songs to play, a quick rundown of the selected Silkworm discography. etc. Tim has been on the show a few times (including a song-by-song deep dive on Firewater) and is always wonderful. In 2025 Silkworm has reformed with original member Joel RL Phelps and new member Jeff Panall. Permanently? We shall see. Tim Midyett returns to talk all about it. SILKWORM!

The Creative Asylum is Daniel House's brand new podcast, a 1:1 interview show exploring the minds & imaginations of people living authentic, creative lives. He may be new to podcasting, but Daniel House has the CV. You may recognize him from his old band Skin Yard with Jack Endino that slightly predate that whole 1990s gold rush. Nirvana opened for them, they had crossover membership with Soundgarden (Matt Cameron!) and put some awesome records. He also operated CZ Records for years, home of the Deep Six comp and later putting out records by the Gits, Silkworm, Built to Spill, 7 Year Bitch and many others. We walk through all of that as well as potential future recording plans and many other things.

The legendary Tom Flynn has a new 7" out DO THE THUD, Dale Crover plays drums on it and the singer for Star Pimp does some vocals. Awesome! We talk about how weirdly timeless The Money Will Roll In by Fang has become, covered by so many famous bands. The foundation of Boner records and operating a record label long before the internet. Meeting Melvins and Steel Pole Bath Tub and then putting their records out. The LYSOL lawsuit, Antler Family, DUH, Suboptics, Star Pimp and FANG! Tom is a unique guitar player and foundational guy in weird and iconoclastic music. Take a listen!

Dazzling Killmen are back in 2025. What an incredible thing to have the band that released the mighty and influential Face of Collapse playing live shows once again. This episode has a focus on their enigmatic, intense and powerful drummer, who started drums young playing in drum line, and had a whole post DK career with the wonderful Laddio Bolocko. AKA: The band that Mars Volta really wanted to be. Speaking of Mars Volta did you know that Blake played in that band? Twice, actually so stay tuned for all that as well as a Dazzling Kilmen early days and deep dive and the future for that reunited band. Certainly not something that could have been predicted when singer and guitarist Nick Sakes came on last.

There's a new band they are called HLLLYH and they have a record called Uruburu. But it also the Mae Shi. Kind of... wait, what? Song by song breakdown of this wonderful record as well as the origin story of this new band, how the record came to pass and another look at the very interesting history of the band that was known as The Mae Shi. Jeff Byron has been on the show, now let's talk to brother Tim!

Nina is back! And with a new record only available on bandcamp. Songs for a World of Trouble isn't just an awesome record, you can't get it on the other streamers. However, you CAN purchase it direct from the artist. Dedicated to the late, great Steve Albini it is a grand experiment and a worthy entry into Nina's discography, it comes with a digital book as well. Song-by-song breakdown of that ensues in this conversation, as well as at length discussions at the state of being an indie musician in a walled garden streaming society and lots more. Updates from the very recent Jolie Laide tour and tons more.