Kanthan and Jonathan discuss whether electric vehicles truly represent the future of transport or just another technological dead end. This leads into a debate over the prospect of portable nuclear reactors and the broader tension between innovation and regulation. The hosts reflect back on the relevance of Musk’s Twitter acquisition, question whether the United Nations is a force for good or a relic of global bureaucracy, and end with a provocative discussion on South Africa’s fixation with racial and historical divisions, asking whether any thriving nation still defines itself that way.

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