Black Heart is back, and playing shows in 2025. What wonderful news. Pall knows knives! Acidwrx balisong knives (aka: aka: butterfly knives). Probably more knife talk than has ever happened on this show. The history of Three Mile Pilot, a history of Black Heart Procession. working with Issac Brock on Ugly Casanova (and Modest Mouse in general), making a video for every song BEFORE the youtube age, Corey Rusk calling about being on Touch and Go and getting the message from his mom, the act of creation, being a quiet person and a frontman, and the Ice Cream Floats upcoming cruise. It's been 5 1/2 years since Pall's Black heart bandmate Toby was on, so let's dig in.