Six years have past since Chris Spencer was last on Protonic! At the time Human Impact was brand new. So let's catch up. Starting with the reissue of Occupational Hazard on Lamb Unlimited. Remastered and including the AmRep demos. Unsane with Eric Cooper and Jon Syverson will be doing a lot of touring this year, along with an appearance at Roadburn! We speak about that as well the incredible story behind the release of the once lost, than found Improvised Munitions, and exactly where The Ernie Chicorelli disappeared to...the nature of the Telecaster and why it is the perfect guitar for Chris. The Body Bomb video (and MTV's very succinct response), synergy with the sonic science of Jim Coleman with Human Impact. Human Impact writing something like 48 songs during the pandemic. Celan Recording in Berlin's Neubauten studio in a wild two-week sprint. Cutthroats 9, Frank Kozik and Man's ruin. All that and so very much more!