It has been almost four years since Kira came on Protonic Reversal, before her FIRST solo record even. Now her second one Engima is coming out, a tribute to her fallen friend and collaborator, Co-produced with her brother Paul (Screamers) and featuring backing vocals from Petra Haden it features a minimalist bass approach. The Oscar and Emmy winning dialogue editor opines about Black Flag, creativity in the modern world and much more. We talk about that as well as using a headset mic and muscle memory, DOS with two basses (with Mike Watt) being the spirit of the punk rock ethos if not sound, holding it down while the other players in Black Flag went off, European crowds throwing beer cans at Flag because the music was slow and with long hair, the DIY model of touring that Black Flag (and Chuck Dukowksi specifically) started and honed. Check out Kira's awesome new record and this lovely talk with a DIY and punk rock pioneer!