With the Booker-Prize winning master himself, George Saunders, discussing his new book, A Swim in a Pond in the Rain. We talk about how to find a story's unconscious structure, the necessary qualities it takes for a young writer to succeed in publishing, and how George knew he'd found his true literary voice, when he heard his wife laughing one night in the next room.

With guest host Whitney Scharer, author of the award winning novel The Age of Light. All episodes of The Thoughtful Bro aired live originally on A Mighty Blaze. The Thoughtful Bro is proudly sponsored by Libro.fm.