Today I interviewed Joshua Lee.

Josh, like so many other human beings I have had the chance to talk to, never has any problem saying it like it is.

I never have to second-guess his motives or his intentions. Feels good actually.

In a world full of bullshit, I found my conversation with Josh really refreshing.

We talked about:

* How balance is bullshit

* How respect and kindness are everything

* How being rigorously honest is the “way out”

And so much more.

Click play below to listen!