In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric proves once again that math is not his spiritual gift and Jamie finds himself getting unexpectedly plaid-bombed. In Shady Theology, they tackle kenosis—what it means that Christ “emptied himself” and why that doctrine matters more than we think. In So Help Meme God, they explore the sad (and slightly hilarious) plight of associate pastors everywhere. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a timely question: when should pastors speak up about politics—and when should they stay quiet?

It’s self-aware, theologically rich, and appropriately plaid—welcome to Not the Sermon.