Tuck speaks with lawyer and trans advocate Chase Strangio (he/they). Topics include:

• Why everything is going to keep getting worse (sorry!)
• How "biological" sex only exists in the law to exclude trans people
• Trans joy as a political counterpoint to right-wing legislation
• Cis women's crucial role in combatting transphobia
• Plus: Throwing yourself on the ground screaming at the gender binary

This Week in Gender: The IOC releases new guidelines for trans & intersex athlete eligibility; and California will require gender-neutral toy sections.

Find Chase @chasestrangio on Twitter/IG and at aclu.org.

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