Ben and guest co-host Jon Porobil (of the Play Disc Podcast) are joined by K.C. Clifford to talk about the Patty Griffin debut record “Living with Ghosts” from 1996. Plenty of other discussion including raising kids and maintaining creativity, #JonsTwitterListeningParty, Billy Joel, bookcases with records, how do you top meeting Joan Jett as a 9 year-old, who is Ophelia, and the genius of Patty Griffin.

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