Ben and guest co-host Jeff Johnson welcome Glen Phillips (Toad the Wet Sprocket) to talk about Peter Gabriel’s 1986 record “So.” Plenty of other discussion including “Fly From Heaven” (because of Wayne’s score on the “Dulcinea” episode), weird times in the 90s for college rock, the thing about being not cool and being nerdy, song placements, white privilege, Peter getting screwed at the Grammys, Ninja Sex Party, parenting wins, and spitting on people.

Check out Glen at: https://www.glenphillips.com/

Check out Toad at: https://toadthewetsprocket.com/

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