Recorded on the eve of Mother’s Day 2025, this conversation was never meant to remain unheard.

Within weeks of this interview, a sequestration order — requested by the State under the representation that Cindy Adams and Dr. Katie Spirko would be called as witnesses (they were not) — prevented its release.

Now, following the conclusion of the evidentiary hearing in Zach Adams’s post-conviction proceedings, we return to that conversation.

For years, Cindy Adams has lived inside a narrative shaped by addiction, arrest, confession, and conviction. In this episode, she tells her own story — in her own words — and addresses what she believes the public has misunderstood.

 

Content Warning:

This episode includes discussion of violent crime, including abduction, sexual assault, and homicide, as well as substance abuse and the long-term impact of incarceration on families. The material may be difficult for some listeners, particularly survivors of violence. Please listen with care.