In this pre-Christmas edition of The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast, Charles makes the case against conservative nihilism, even when things look really bad. Afterwards, Charles talks to Mike Rowe, of Dirty Jobs, about America's imperiled work ethic, the brilliant 50-year "PR campaign" in favor of four-year college degrees, and the likelihood that some balance will be restored to the workforce.

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