Tuck speaks with historian and writer Jules Gill-Peterson (she/her). Topics include:

• Do cis people exist?
• Why the United States hates children
• The very unequal histories of trans men and trans women
• How both sides of the trans youth debate are failing trans kids
• Plus: Patti Harrison, FFS @ CVS, and "If this is what being an ally is, I am an enemy."

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