In this episode of Dog Pro Radio, they welcome guest Pat Stuart, a distinguished dog trainer, and educator. Pat shares his journey from serving in Australia's Special Forces to becoming a professional dog trainer in 2015, and offers insights into the importance of practical experience and continuous learning in the field. The conversation covers the internal challenges within the International Association of Canine Professionals (IACP), the influence of social media on dog training, and the potential threats from zealot groups seeking to ban training tools. Pat emphasizes the need for balanced trainers to maintain competence, uphold ethical standards, and unite against external adversaries. He also discusses his latest projects, including an upcoming online dog training course aimed at helping trainers achieve excellence without compromising their principles.