A decade after the release of his foundational book, When Helping Hurts, author Dr. Brian Fikkert has teamed up with Dr. Kelly Kapic to offer deeper reflections on the topics of poverty, human flourishing, and God’s story of change for the poor and ourselves. In this podcast episode, Brian and Kelly sit down with Gabe Lyons to discuss these ideas and why they believe the opposite of poverty isn’t the American dream. Get 30% off their new book, Becoming Whole, and its companion resource, The Field Guide to Becoming Whole, when you use promo code “Chalmers” at MoodyPublishers.com.