Tuck speaks with organizer and educator Dean Spade (he/him). Topics include:

• Why civil rights laws won't save us
• Common mutual aid struggles: money, security culture, etc.
• Why does burnout convince us that we can't take a break?
• Reflections 20 years after founding the Sylvia Rivera Law Project
• Plus: dinosaur gender, x markers, and talking people out of law school

This Week in Gender: The Texas government tried to make a database of residents who changed their gender markers.

Find Dean's work at BigDoorBrigade.com, PinkwashingExposed.net and linktr.ee/deanspade. Visit DeanSpade.net for more info on Mutual Aid, videos from past workshops, and many other resources.

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