Tuck speaks with DEI strategist Lily Zheng (they/them). Topics include:

• Why pizza can be more useful than a 60-minute workshop
• Can we DEI our way out of transphobic workplaces?
• What makes allyship performative? (It's not what you think!)
• Should corporations be hosting Trans Day of Remembrance events?
• Plus: does DEI work delay the proletarian revolution??

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