Could these animals talk? Or was each one just another dumb ol’ Clever Hans? In any case, rest assured that both Alex the parrot and Koko the gorilla were every bit as cute as you might have thought.

But not Clever Hans. Man, f*** that guy.

EPISODE LINKS

All-purpose show links: https://superduperstitious.com/links

Four Phantoms email: [email protected]

Four Phantoms website: https://www.fourphantoms.net/

Four Phantoms store: https://four-phantoms-brewing-company.square.site/

Jake’s story

Alex the parrot (Northern Parrots dot com): https://www.northernparrots.com/alexs-legacy-blog522/

The first animal to ask an existential question: https://mymodernmet.com/alex-the-african-gray-parrot/

Alex’s math skillz: https://bit.ly/3DeKhV9

Alex demo video: https://youtu.be/ldYkFdu5FJk

Video of Alex’s general story: https://www.pbs.org/video/nova-sciencenow-profile-irene-pepperberg-alex/

Wyatt’s story

Koko the gorilla (WaPo): https://wapo.st/3Hjb84L

The Education of Koko pdf: https://bit.ly/3c4j0ZM

Koko selfie: https://i.natgeofe.com/n/54f15004-b163-4018-89f8-5a65b81bde66/kok-gorilla-selfie.jpg

Why tell Koko about Robin Williams’ death? (NYT): https://nyti.ms/3CcEGNN

The Wire article: https://thewire.in/the-sciences/did-the-worlds-most-famous-gorilla-ever-talk-like-humans-did

Robin Williams and Koko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9I_QvEXDv0&t=26s

The Onion video: https://youtu.be/CJkWS4t4l0k

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