Tuck chats with sports journalist Katie Barnes (they/them). Topics include:

• Will "the science" ever be settled re: trans athletes?
• How coordinated are all these anti-trans sports bills?
• Why most teams should be co-ed (and why most elite sports shouldn't be)
• What makes a bad interview question? (Asking for a friend lol)
• Plus: Getting banned for your bones, interviewing trans kids, and a reminder that sports are hard!

This Week in Gender: Joan Summers on Barbie (2023)

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