We have feedback from the Brian McLaren interview, which leads into a discussion about whether we should all go to more than one church. Do we need one, small community for our discipleship and a range of other places for our worship? Also we talk about karate churches, authoritarian leaders, theological conspiracy theories and whether quite a lot of us are suffering from ‘languishing’. Meanwhile, Nick has been told to shut up on medical grounds and Joe is going all David Attenborough again.

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