Cathy and Troy break down the new American Pope, Leo XIV, after Troy called it in the last episode. Was this an absolutely stellar political move on the part of the Cardinals to put an American in power on the global stage to counter Donald Trump? 

A pro-immigration, pro-social justice Pope that can stand up to Trump and continue to exert moral American leadership on the world stage? We are here for it.

We discuss the symbolism and spirituality, and the politics, of the Catholic church stepping up as a force for good in a rapidly devolving world.

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