But not without our fourth annual State of the Whitecaps end of season chat with 'Caps coach Carl Robinson (at 37:16 mark).

In our latest one on one with Robbo we look at just what went wrong this season past, what's he's learned, what needs to be done to make this team better, and a look at the players moving on and those possibly coming in. We chat referees, Fabian Espindola, Seattle's MLS Cup success, those rumours linking him with the Swansea City job, and a lot more.

Round about our chat with Carl, AFTN writer Jay Duke and Curva Collective's Zachary Adam Meisenheimer join Michael and Steve to look at some of the main talking points so far this offseason in Whitecapsland and discuss what Robbo had to say.

There's a lot of talk to be had, so have a listen.