Scott and Keith catch up on recent reads (1:45), Scott's week and the perspective of convention organizers (10:10) before Keith reviews progress on his fourth novel draft (13:50) while remembering pivotal moments in earlier drafts (20:30).  The 'Gary Yap email trilogy' concludes with a lengthy discussion on influences (25:00) before Scott and Keith give their answers to another mailbag question - 'what do you consider indie?' (46:45)