On New Year's Eve 2021, Ellesmere and Sierra Foley sat down with Patrick and Katy Hall to reflect on the highs and lows of growing up in a mammalwatching world. Ellesmere reveals the real reason to visit the Louvre, and Patrick gives tips on how to stare down a Tassie Devil. Sierra has an overly-close encounter with leeches. And Katy makes a shocking confession about feeling "lucky" to have had a mammalwatching childhood!

Plus try to identify a mysterious mammal call that Charles plays at the start of the episode. More than 99% of mammalwatchers won't know the answer.

Here is the YouTube trailer.

For more information visit www.mammalwatching.com/podcast

Notes: If you think you know what animal made the mysterious noises that Charles played at the start of the podcast please email us at [email protected]

Cover art: from left to right, Ellesmere, Sierra, Katy and Patrick on New Year's Eve, by Lara Foley.

Dr Charles Foley is a mammalwatcher and biologist who, together with his wife Lara, spent 30 years studying elephants in Tanzania. They now run the Tanzania Conservation Research Program at the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago.

Jon Hall set up mammalwatching.com in 2005. Genetically Welsh, spiritually Australian, currently in New York City. He has looked for mammals in over 100 countries.

Produced and edited by Jon Hall & Charles Foley.