Andy, Andrew and Tim try and make a bore draw at Leyton Orient sound mildly entertaining, and discuss at length Wrexham's potential return to European football via a proposed shake-up of the Welsh League Cup.

Plus:

- Max Cleworth injury - How long will he be out, and who replaces him? Dr Gil-peen grabs his medical notes.

- More heartache for Wrexham Women against the Swans

- Is it time to drop James McClean in favour of Seb Revan as the games come thick and fast?

- Player songs: What's a hit and what's a miss? Who needs a new tune?

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