In this episode, The Creativity Department is joined by returning guest Holly Bess Kincaid to talk about her experience being a long-serving art educator at a new school. Holly has taught across multiple states and grade levels, which comes with its own challenges – Matt, Laura, and Holly discuss how hard it can be to advocate for your program and yourself as an educator at a new school, as well as setting new goals to help foster student’s creativity and advice for educators in similar situations. Listen in to hear more from Holly!