It's Part Two of the Art Retreat Recap! This week, we sit down with Gary Hodges (Dinosaurs vs Marsbots) and Jim Lujan (film animator, The Full Fungus) for part two of our Crestline art retreat recap, and talk about the design and execution of sound recording for video (4:00), the value of having people live and in person for feedback (12:20), reference photos and the acting they require (18:40), putting greater weight on things that work in animation (27:40), creating a story from scratch in five hours (33:00), and turning page breakdowns into a comic script (40:10).