What happens when someone outside the faith asks for your honest take on one of today's most controversial issues? In this episode, Dr. Greg shares a conversation with secular therapist and podcast host Stephanie Winn, who came with real curiosity: What does Catholic psychology say about gender ideology? Even without sharing the same faith background, Stephanie engages deeply—and the result is a rich dialogue that offers clarity, compassion, and truth.

Key Topics:

• How to speak about gender truthfully and compassionately
• Why Catholic anthropology offers clarity in a confused culture
• The psychological roots of gender confusion and identity struggles
• The difference between repression and integration in Catholic psychology
• A merciful, hopeful vision of healing for those struggling with gender and identity wounds

Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction and Why a Secular Therapist Wanted a Catholic Take

08:00 – Can Faith, Reason, and Science Really Work Together?

19:35 – Making the Leap of Faith When Understanding Falls Short

25:35 – The Scandal of Psychology: No Answer to "What Is a Person?"

29:58 – Fractured Identity: Dr. Greg Reflects on His Parents' Divorce

31:16 – Stephanie Reflects: I Didn't Know My Struggles Were from a Father Wound

35:13 – Lack of Compassion Is Missing from Religious Approaches

38:42 – Using the Blueprint to Help Those Suffering with Gender Issues

46:44 – Digging into the Causes of Gender Identity Struggles

Learn More:

• Check out You Must Be Some Kind of Therapist Podcast, hosted by Stephanie Winn LMFT
• For the second half of this conversation, listen to Ep. 218: A Conversation with a Secular Therapist: Unveiling the Blueprint of the Human Person
• Love and Responsibility by Karol Wojtyla (Pope John Paul II)
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