Core EM - Emergency Medicine Podcast

Episode 221: High-Output Heart Failure


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We discuss the diagnosis and treatment of one of EM's paradoxes: High-Output Heart Failure.

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Nicolas Gonzalez, MD
Brian Gilberti, MD

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      1. Core Definition & Hemodynamic Profile
      • Clinical Paradox: Congestive symptoms (pulmonary edema, JVD, peripheral edema) in the setting of a hyperdynamic, supranormal cardiac function.

      • Hemodynamic Criteria:

        • Cardiac Index (CI): >4.0 L/min/m2.

        • Cardiac Output (CO): >8 L/min.

        • Systemic Vascular Resistance (SVR): Pathologically low (vasodilated or shunted state).

        • The “Warm” Phenotype: Unlike standard HFrEF/HFpEF (often “Cold and Wet”), HOHF presents as “Warm and Wet” due to low SVR and bounding pulses.

          2. Pathophysiology: The Hemodynamic Paradox
          • Primary Insult: Decreased SVR (either via peripheral vasodilation or arteriovenous shunting).

          • Effective Arterial Blood Volume: Paradoxically low despite high total CO.

          • Neurohormonal Cascade:

            • Activation of Renin-Angiotensin-Aldosterone System (RAAS).

            • Increased Sympathetic Nervous System tone.

            • Increased Antidiuretic Hormone (ADH) secretion.

            • Resultant State: Avid renal salt and water retention leading to massive plasma volume expansion.

            • Cardiac Response: Chronic volume overload → eccentric remodeling → chamber dilation → eventual secondary myocardial failure/dilated cardiomyopathy.

              3. Differential Diagnosis: Etiological “Buckets”
              Category A: Increased Metabolic Demand (Systemic)
              • Hyperthyroidism/Thyrotoxicosis:

                • Direct T3 effects: increased chronotropy/inotropy.

                • Indirect effects: metabolic byproduct accumulation causing peripheral vasodilation.

                • Myeloproliferative Disorders:

                  • High cell turnover and increased oxygen consumption drive compensatory CO increase.

                  • Sepsis (Hyperdynamic Phase):

                    • Cytokine-mediated global vasodilation.

                    • Note: Often transient; may transition to sepsis-induced myocardial depression.

                      Category B: Peripheral Vascular Effects (Shunting/Vasodilation)
                      • Arteriovenous Fistulas (AVF) / Malformations (AVM):

                        • Most Common Cause: Iatrogenic AVF for Hemodialysis (ESRD population).

                        • Bypasses high-resistance capillary beds, dumping arterial blood directly into venous circulation.

                        • Chronic Liver Disease (Cirrhosis):

                          • Formation of “spider angiomata” and internal AV shunts.

                          • Impaired clearance of endogenous vasodilators (e.g., Nitric Oxide).

                          • Thiamine Deficiency (Wet Beriberi):

                            • Accumulation of pyruvate/lactate → systemic vasodilation.

                            • Histopathology: Vacuolation, myofiber hypertrophy, and interstitial edema.

                            • Chronic Lung Disease:

                              • Hypoxia/Hypercapnia-driven systemic vasodilation.

                              • Concomitant pulmonary HTN (RV remodeling) but preserved/high LV output.

                              • Others: Paget’s disease of bone (extensive micro-shunting), Carcinoid syndrome, Mitochondrial diseases, Acromegaly, Erythroderma.

                                4. Special Focus: Hemodialysis Access-Induced HOHF
                                Physiologic Phases of AVF Creation:
                                1. Acute Phase:

                                  1. Immediate ↓ SVR.

                                  2. ↑ Stroke volume and Heart Rate (SNS-mediated).

                                  3. Endothelial shear stress → Nitric Oxide release → further arterial dilation.

                                  4. Subacute Phase (Days to 2 Weeks):

                                    1. RAAS-driven volume expansion.

                                    2. ↑ Right Atrial, Pulmonary Artery, and LV End-Diastolic Pressures (LVEDP).

                                    3. Natriuretic peptide surge (BNP/ANP) peaks around Day 10.

                                    4. Chronic Phase (Weeks to Months):

                                      1. Adaptive hypertrophy.

                                      2. Decompensation occurs when dilation exceeds contractility limits.

                                        5. Point-of-Care Physical Exam & Maneuvers
                                        • Nicoladoni-Branham Sign (Pathognomonic for Shunt-driven HOHF):

                                          • Maneuver: Manually compress the AVF (or inflate cuff to >50 mmHg above SBP) for 30 seconds.

                                          • Positive Result: Reflexive bradycardia or a transient rise in systemic BP.

                                          • Significance: Confirms the shunt is a major contributor to the cardiac workload.

                                          • Peripheral Pulse Assessment:

                                            • Water Hammer Pulses: Rapid upstroke and collapse.

                                            • Quincke’s Pulse: Visible capillary pulsations in the nail beds.

                                            • Traube’s Sign: “Pistol-shot” sounds auscultated over the femoral arteries.

                                            • Volume Status: Rales, S3 gallop, peripheral edema (standard HF signs).

                                              6. Diagnostic Workup (Technical Targets)
                                              POCUS / Echocardiography:
                                              • Left Ventricle: Hyperdynamic function; EF typically >60%.

                                              • Left Atrium: Significant dilation (Left Atrial Volume Index >34 mL/m2; Case study noted 72 mL/m2).

                                              • IVC: Plethoric with minimal respiratory variation.

                                              • Doppler: High flow velocities across the AV access if applicable.

                                                Laboratory Evaluation:
                                                • BNP/NT-proBNP: Often markedly elevated (e.g., >70,000 in severe cases), though mean values in literature hover around 700–800 pg/mL.

                                                • Hematology: CBC to evaluate for severe anemia (trigger for HOHF if Hgb<7–8 g/dL) or myeloproliferative markers.

                                                • Endocrine/Metabolic: TSH (Thyrotoxicosis), Serum Thiamine (Beriberi), LFTs (Cirrhosis).

                                                  7. Management Strategy: A Stepwise Approach
                                                  Phase 1: Immediate Stabilization (Volume Offloading)
                                                  • Diuresis: Aggressive IV loop diuretics (Bumetanide/Furosemide).

                                                  • Ultrafiltration: Preferred in ESRD patients failing to respond to dialysis or with refractory congestion.

                                                  • Vasodilator Caution: Avoid aggressive Nitroglycerin or ACE-inhibitors initially.

                                                    • Rationale: Baseline SVR is already pathologically low; further reduction may precipitate profound hypotension/circulatory collapse.

                                                      Phase 2: Targeted Therapy (Etiology Specific)
                                                      • Anemia: Transfuse to goal Hgb>7–8 g/dL to reduce demand.

                                                      • Beriberi: High-dose IV Thiamine (100–500 mg).

                                                      • Thyrotoxicosis: Beta-blockers (Propranolol) + Antithyroid meds (PTU/Methimazole).

                                                        Phase 3: Surgical/Interventional Salvage (Refractory AVF Cases)
                                                        1. Closure of Accessory Sites: If multiple fistulas exist, close the non-dominant/unused sites.

                                                        2. Flow Reduction (Banding): Surgical narrowing of the fistula to target flow <600 mL/min.

                                                        3. RUDI Procedure: Revision Using Distal Inflow (moving inflow to a smaller, more distal artery).

                                                        4. Ligation: Complete closure of the AVF.

                                                          • Note: Requires bridge to Tunneled Dialysis Catheter or AV graft (higher resistance than fistulas).

                                                            8. Key Clinical Takeaways
                                                            • The “Normal EF” Trap: Do not be reassured by an EF of 55–65%; in the context of pulmonary edema and high CO, this is potentially HOHF.

                                                            • Pulse Pressure: Look for a wide pulse pressure (e.g., 180/60) as a marker of low SVR.

                                                            • ESRD Logic: If an ESRD patient is “wet” immediately after HD, the problem is likely flow (AVF), not just fluid.


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