What if the path to healing isn't about fixing yourself, but finally letting yourself be loved—right in the mess? In this deeply human and hopeful conversation, Dr. Greg sits down with longtime friend and CFR friar Fr. Columba to explore why our spiritual lives fall apart when we try to be angels instead of humans. Together, they unpack the quiet power of incarnation, what holiness looks like in real life (hint: it's not clean or quick), and how surrendering to God's pace opens the door to joy, wholeness, and peace. Whether you're weary from striving or just hungry for something more honest and integrated, this episode offers a refreshing breath of grace.

Key Topics:

• Why trying to be "perfectly spiritual" often leads us further from God

• The hidden danger of rejecting our humanity in the name of holiness

• How Jesus reveals the beauty of slowness, patience, and imperfection

• The role of emotions in spiritual life—and why they're not the enemy

• Why integration (not suppression) is key to authentic healing and holiness

Learn More:

• Join us for the 2024 Summit of Integration – June 20–22 in Madison, NJ, featuring Fr. Columba, Peter Kreeft, Jake & Heather Kim, Jennifer Morel, and Matt Maher.

• Spiritual Passages by Fr. Benedict Groeschel – A foundational resource on integrating psychological growth with spiritual maturity.

• Dr. Greg's Book: "The Personalist Cure" (Coming Soon) – Early chapters available with May ticket purchase to the Summit of Integration.

• Need help? Schedule a free CatholicPsych consultation

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