The Oral Talmud

Episode 23: Life Comes First


Listen Later

“How do you take what you have and analogize, and tie some new radical thing that you don't have but you want to insert into the tradition? This entire passage is part of the instruction manual! This is some new twist of creativity, a twist of imagination.”  - Benay Lappe

Welcome to The Oral Talmud, our weekly deep dive chevruta study partnership, discovering how voices of the Talmud from 1500 years ago can help us rethink Judaism today. 

Benay & Dan turn to another essential Talmud text, the origins of Pikuach Nefesh, the teaching that we can and should break (almost) any commandment in order to save a life. What we find is that while the Mishnah has no qualms about giving clear examples of life-saving actions we can take on Shabbat, the Gemara wants some textual support for violating what is so clearly written in Torah. In this discussion we get into all of the explanations except for the final one, the one that tradition ends up hanging this law on.  

What values can we recognize in the Rabbis? Which of them do we want to maintain in the next version of Judaism? When do we want to emulate the ways in which the sages sold the people on radical new ideas? When the Talmud quotes seven different sages giving seven different answers for a halakhic question, what’s going on there? One-upsmanship? Intentional absurdism? A meta teaching about how to develop new foundations for tradition? How do we see these arguments playing out in court cases in our own time? Speaking from 2020, Dan & Benay end up devastatingly prophetic in their discussion of the fragile foundations of Roe v. Wade and abortion laws… The discussion continues next week!

This week’s text: “Pikuach Nefesh” (Yoma 83a & 85a/b)

Find an edited transcript and full shownotes (references and further reading) on The Oral Talmud webpage for this episode! Access the Sefaria Source Sheet to explore key Talmud texts and find the original video of our discussion. The Oral Talmud is a co-production of Judaism Unbound and SVARA: A Traditionally Radical Yeshiva. If you’re enjoying this podcast, please help us keep both fabulous Jewish organizations going with a one-time or monthly tax-deductible donation at oraltalmud.com. You can find a donate button on the top right corner of the website.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

The Oral TalmudBy Institute for the Next Jewish Future

  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5
  • 5

5

12 ratings


More shows like The Oral Talmud

View all
The New Yorker Radio Hour by WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

The New Yorker Radio Hour

6,773 Listeners

The Rabbi Sacks Legacy by Rabbi Lord Jonathan Sacks

The Rabbi Sacks Legacy

545 Listeners

IKAR Podcasts by IKAR

IKAR Podcasts

147 Listeners

Judaism Unbound by Institute for the Next Jewish Future

Judaism Unbound

431 Listeners

The Josh Marshall Podcast by Talking Points Memo

The Josh Marshall Podcast

1,877 Listeners

Identity/Crisis by Shalom Hartman Institute

Identity/Crisis

213 Listeners

Xai, how are you? by Michael Sokolovsky and Xava De Cordova

Xai, how are you?

66 Listeners

For Heaven's Sake by Shalom Hartman Institute

For Heaven's Sake

449 Listeners

Unpacking Israeli History by Unpacked

Unpacking Israeli History

1,198 Listeners

The Ezra Klein Show by New York Times Opinion

The Ezra Klein Show

16,096 Listeners

On the Nose by Jewish Currents

On the Nose

233 Listeners

Chutzpod! by Chutzpod!

Chutzpod!

517 Listeners

Wondering Jews with Mijal and Noam by Unpacked

Wondering Jews with Mijal and Noam

156 Listeners

Being Jewish with Jonah Platt by Jonah Platt

Being Jewish with Jonah Platt

491 Listeners