We speak with Umesh Perinpanayagam about the right to asylum, and the way this has been obfuscated by NZ and Australian politicians as being predominantly about security and immigration.

Should the government be allowed to pick and choose which refugees it allows into the country (through the Refugee Quota system), or should we demand that the government respect the right of refugees to claim asylum in New Zealand?

If you want to read/explore this issue further you can find Umesh's Spinoff article here: https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/16-06-2019/governments-saving-lives-at-sea-rhetoric-rings-hollow/

Opening track - "Sorry" by Comfort Fit