Show Notes: 

• National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) (02:00) 
• Rachel Carson’s words (03:30) 
• Scale of things and perspective 
• Pioneers of oceanography: Rossby and Montgomery (07:30) 
• Global conclusions from small data (09:30) 
• World Ocean Circulation Experiment (10:00) 
• Eye-opening expeditions (12:00) 
• All kinds of ways of ’seeing’ (14:00) 
• Evolution of distributing data (15:00) 
• Recording our experiences (17:00) 
• Books (19:45) 
  • Burr by Gore Vidal  
  • Iron Coffins by Herbert Werner 
• Mentors and lessons:  
  • “Had to make mistakes myself to realize what they [were] trying to tell me all along”  
• Thomas Rossby (25:00) 
• Generosity of time and ideas 
• Understanding of how people need to work together (28:00) 
• Working across boundaries 
• Curiosity-driven networks (29:50) 
• NOAA Big Data Project (31:30) 
• Establishing trust in group projects (34:45 and 37:45) 
• The challenges of 2020 (37:50) 
• Open Commons Consortium and Cancer Moonshot (49:20) 
• The why and how of career shifts (52:00) 
• First Street Foundation (54:00) 
  • Changing people’s minds about climate change 
  • More meaningful activities that just providing data 
  • https://floodfactor.com/
  • Making effective data tools 
• Not about prediction, but response (01:02:00) 
• Humanity’s biggest advantage (01:07:00) 
• Quantifying the risk due to and making decisions about climate change (01:12:00) 
• Jenny Odell - art is being the orchestrator of attention (01:13:30) 
  • Giorgia Lupi episode 
  • Aoife Van Linden Tol episode  
• What makes us human (01:14:00) 
• Lightning round (01:15:00) 
  • Book: The Information (James Gleick) 
    • Chaos
  • Passion: family and outdoors together 
  • Heart sing: fire risk 
  • Screwed up: learning to say when he didn’t know something 
• Find guest online: 
  • LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/edwardkearns 
  • Twitter: @edward_j_kearns 
• 'Five-Cut Fridays’ five-song music playlist series   
  • Ed’s playlist