Most of this episode is a discussion of the lovely but slightly uneasy Peacock original show Rutherford Falls. It's a readily lovable show but also the thing at the very center of its DNA is centuries of genocide - a tricky, tricky tone to land, and the show mostly does it!

At the beginning of the episode, though, we do a little chatting about TV starting to come back this summer. Hooray, television! But there's a very important PSA we need to note: in this episode Kathryn suggests that it's possible the Netflix show Halston might be good. This episode was recorded before she saw that series. Halston is *not* good. We regret the misleading implication.