On episode 30 of The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast, Charles welcomes back his old Mad Dogs and Englishmen co-host, Kevin Williamson, to talk about cities, crime, whether libertarians were wrong about marijuana legalization, going to Italy, shooting snakes with revolvers, and who is going to be the Republican nominee in 2024. No PPE money was destroyed during the making of this podcast.

N.B. Charles is now on vacation. The Charles C. W. Cooke Podcast will return in two weeks.

The dial-up tone in the introduction was recorded by lintphishx and is used under a CC 3.0 License.