With perhaps America's most popular historian, Erik Larson, discussing the "rogue elephant" Winston Churchill during the London Blitz, as featured in his book The Splendid And The Vile. We discussed Churchill's knack for giving devastating news but somehow lifting people's spirits; how he was basically a "f-ck up" till WW2, then went on to save civilization; and how he once sat down with FDR completely naked.

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